Ibrahim 25: With your Lord’s permission, (that tree) will always produce fruit. Allah brings examples to people so that they might take advice.

Surah Ibrahim, verse 25. That tree, by the permission of its Lord, always yields its fruit. This passage too has many meanings. That is, concerning people who are within such a light of faith, Allahu nûru's-semâvâti ve'l-ard meselü nûrihî ke-mişkâtin fîhâ misbâh, el-misbâhu fî zücâceh, the verse where He says this, in its continuation: We place Our light in the hearts of such people, and they see with the light of Allah; We Ourselves raise them; neither the shadow of the east nor of the west falls on them. That is, neither the knowledge of the outward nor the shadow of falsehood can have any effect on the person We have raised.

They tell the truth, He says. They guide those around them, and because such people keep coming until the Day of Judgment, Allah will complete His light until the Day of Judgment, He says. Yes. That is the meaning. What does it say? That tree, by the permission of its Lord, always yields its fruit. Just so, such people are always being raised. Isn't that so? Yes. Allah gives people examples so that they may take heed, He says. How beautiful.

Where is the one who will take heed from that example?

A person of faith

needs sound reason, needs to use his reason; that is necessary. A person who does not use his reason is the captive of his nafs. And a person who is the captive of his nafs has taken Satan as his guide. And Satan puts a yoke on his neck, shows him the world in rosy colours, and he sinks into the swamp of the world. Yes. These work together with one another. O world! Bow to the one who advances on My path, He says. Bow. Just say Allah. Put the light of your Lord in your heart. That world will spread itself beneath your feet anyway. Not just this world. Even if there were several more worlds, when you see the punishment in the hereafter, He says, you would want to give them to Allah as ransom and be saved, He says.

So then, if in this world, within a person's lifetime of a few hours compared to the hereafter, in the mire of this swamp of a world, (?) like the flower of the zaqqum tree, a person longs for it and plunges into that swamp, he extinguishes his own life forever.

When you ask, how is life extinguished, Hodja, Allah Almighty says this in His verse: There they neither find life nor die, He says. So their life has been extinguished. And there is no death either. Well, what does a person understand by life? By life he understands living. He understands peace. He understands having everything he says fulfilled, and he understands being secure. This is life: I will be secure, my living will be good, what I say will be fulfilled. Where is this? In Paradise. Now, what does it say about Hell? There they neither find life nor die. Within the torment and suffering of a deathless realm, constantly face to face with cruelty, they are afflicted with an eternal life.

Yes. May Allah protect us from such a realm. Yes.

That tree, by the permission of its Lord, always yields its fruit. Allah gives people examples so that they may take heed, He says. So people who live by the light of faith will, as long as the world stands, until the Day of Judgment, keep proclaiming the truth and reality, the light of Allah, to people. Moreover, in the true abode of eternal bliss, sound and secure, reaching a deathless realm, they will live in eternal bliss. However much they block the way of Islam and try to extinguish the light of Allah, Allah will complete His light until the Day of Judgment. Through the coming into the world, until the Day of Judgment, of believing people bound by faith and Islam, He will keep the universe standing for their sake. The universe will remain standing for their sake.

Now, at some point in time, I went on Umrah. During Umrah, going back and forth between Safa and Marwa, I rest. I rest at Safa. I rest at Marwa. But when I come to Safa, something happens, but I cannot understand it. Feelings come. Feelings. I look like this. From such a spot on Safa, the House of Allah is visible. It is visible from everywhere, but it is seen from one particular spot. And people go back and forth.

I can't work it out. Things are happening, I can't work it out. I went once more, came back, still nothing. I went once more, came back, and as I stood there the world changed. The world changed. The people going between Safa and Marwa there became like pawns. My Lord let me watch those servants Allah created eagerly performing their worship to Allah. For the sake of this handful of people I see, I keep this world standing, He says. Yes. That handful of people on earth are like the stars shining in the sky. Allah keeps this world standing for their sake. Such people will keep coming until the Day of Judgment.

This world will stand for the sake of these people. Yes.

What do we say? However much they block the way of Islam and try to extinguish the light of Allah, Allah will complete His light until the Day of Judgment. Through the coming into the world, until the Day of Judgment, of believing people bound by faith and Islam, the universe will remain standing for their sake.

It is both the meaning of the verses and an expression of the event I lived, our telling of it. That is, our telling of the event we lived there. Programming people according to their own wishes, Allah has programmed people according to their own desires and wishes. Here, Allah has no ruling over me in the actual deeds I have done. If there were such a ruling, Allah would be responsible for what they have done. In that case, whoever says Allah increased his kufr, Allah bound his heart, ascribes a crime to Allah. And that is how they rendered the verses. People who do not shrink from objecting to Allah have accused Allah of injustice.

Yes. Let's read this part again.

Allah, who programs people according to their own wishes. Where? In the address "Elestü bi-Rabbiküm", when He said "your Lord", with each person, with each person. Ve iz ehaze Rabbüke min benî Âdeme min zuhûrihim, He said. Ve eşhedehüm alâ enfüsihim e lestü bi-Rabbiküm, He said. According to the verse. We made a covenant with those who would emerge from the offspring of the children of Adam. Poor people who don't know this: from the loins of the children of Adam He brought forth their offspring. Whether in the world, in the mother's womb or in the hereafter is unclear; because they think they know Arabic, how did they characterize Allah Almighty this way?

When it says "zuhûr", it means they will come out of Adam's loins, they will emerge. Right. He did not grasp this either: "will emerge". That is, He says (?) with those who will come out of the loins. As simply as that: it came out of the loins, you see. Are we not the (?) of the children of Adam? (?) from us. Where? In the world or in (?). Whereas it is: with those who will emerge. Where? Elestü bi-Rabbiküm. When He created our souls in the realm of Lahut, when our Lord asked our souls, when He said "I created you", about the people who were divided into three classes there, these people are unaware.

Close this place, close it. It leads to the Qadariyya, he says. To the Qadariyya. If you open it a little more, you are a Mu'tazilite. Why? Because this is the very purpose of man's creation in the Quran, its lifeline. If you don't know this, you go astray like that.

Yes. Then: in the will of the universal and the partial there is, eh, but, eh, we cannot go into these. Of course you can't. You have denied this verse. Or if you didn't deny it, you closed it off, buried it in ashes. You didn't acknowledge it. And you don't want to acknowledge it. What does this mean? It is, in a way, turning your back on Allah's verse.

Yes. So acknowledge the verses of my Lord. Consult. Talk. Try to learn. If, on certain rules, to the law of people who will turn your religion into superstitions you bow, and for place and position, for the nafs's whims and worldly material gain, you turn your back on Allah's verse, then tomorrow, on the Day of Judgment, in the Supreme Court, you will have neither a helper nor an intercessor.

Yes. Allah, who programs people according to their own wishes, of these programs, as much as He intends, the events He makes known, to people with examples He tries to explain. Only people who have believed in Allah take a lesson from these events. Yes.

In short, the tree bearing fruit is, while in this world, people who believe and have faith in Allah, until the Day of Judgment, coming without compromising their fruit, that is their faith, and after the Day of Judgment attaining the truth in the hereafter, and carrying the deeds they did in the world to the hereafter as rewards.

According to the verse saying it always yields its fruit, in the hereafter too, by attaining the highest Paradise, they will have given their true fruits. Moreover, in this world, by telling people about Allah, they give their fruits in this world too, with their good words. Yes.