Ibrahim 29: They will enter hell. And how wretched a dwelling that is.

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Surah Ibrahim, verse 29, we have come to it.

They will enter Hell; what an evil abode it is, it says. In one verse it also says: what an evil place of return it is. In another verse it says: what an evil bed it is. Bed, mattress.

People in this world may wrong each other. They also torture. We see many people being killed under torture. In the end there is release. I mean, one is released by death. Suffer three days, five days, a month; what will the torment amount to? Let them cut you slice by slice if they want. In the end you'll die, I mean. You'll be released. But in the hereafter, within an eternal, endless life, there is no more death.

There they neither live nor die, it says.

Hodja, isn't living the life we know? Yes. Well, and it says: nor do they die. They don't live, so they're dead. Nor do they die, it says. Can there be such a verse? Ha. If we don't understand, that's how we understand it. The meaning of this verse: why did we come into the world? To prove ourselves, to live. Are we living? We are living. What is living? Living as I know it: eating, drinking and leading a good life is called living. Is that so? Otherwise, if a person lives under torture, lives like a slave, like a slave, well, if in the old days they drove slaves onto ships and made them row in shackles, in chains, is this living?

I ask you, is this living?

Likewise there, within torment, within fire, within chains and fetters, think of the torment a person will suffer: is this living? So there, do they live? In that case: nor do they die, it says. So, an eternal torment. Who wants such a torment? Like the flower of the zaqqum tree in this world's rosy-blooming swamp, it draws you to itself, and (?) the world, and if with that tiny brain, as though you would carry what Allah created on your back, you do the world's porter work, tomorrow, with empty hands, you'll go to the Divine Presence with a black face. Or do you own even an atom of your world, He says.

Of your world. If that were so, from your world not even a (?) of a seed would have been given. Not even as much as a seed's (?) would have been given. So whatever there is from the atom to the sphere, this body of yours included.

All these created beings are Allah's creation. You will leave your body in the world too. Your body; soul, nafs and life are one. Bodies are separate. With it, to go to the Divine Presence, to the realm of Barzakh you will journey. You will be raised to the Barzakh. The Hour will come. Bodies will again come out of the earth like (?). When you come to My presence with a driver, when the body is paired with the soul, when soul and body come face to face, We, He says, will silence your mouths, bind your feet, make your hands speak, He says.

The soul, then: why are you bearing witness against me, it says. The one who makes me speak: Allah makes me speak, it says. After the testimony is over, the body says exactly this to the soul: You are being returned to the One who first created you, it says. There it tastes death for the second time. The first time, we are brought to life in the world. The first time, we die in the world. The second time is upon the body. The second time, in the hereafter, Allah Almighty revives our bodies. The second time, He makes our bodies die there. This corresponds to the verse: We bring you to life twice and make you die twice.

Now, against this verse, in ignorance, let me say, let me not speak more harshly, a person in ignorance, who has millions following behind him, a person, a person who makes a lake at the gate of Paradise where one enters with the body and bathes, a person who, as one enters Paradise, saying "you have come pure", lets people into Paradise with the body, a person carrying millions behind him. What are you passing judgment on? Which verse did you understand, that you state its meaning? Yes.

Hodjas who are like them, the millions they have in tow, those who for Allah's sake are bound to their hodja with their conscience, have drawn a curtain over their eyes, plugged their ears too, and follow them blindly. Waking these up is very hard too.

One of them has declared himself the qutb of the age, a great scholar. The qutb I know: a qutb, but, the Qutb al-Azam explains the Quran verses to people. (?),

cleans the (?). The (?). What kind of qutb is this? He has withdrawn into his home, sitting without putting two words together; the people around him profit from him, present him as blessed, and the others play whatever game they want. What goes on, what things!

Yes. What things are said.

May Allah reform them. Have your speed or something checked. What does Surah Ibrahim's 29th verse say? They will enter Hell. What an evil abode it is.

Of those who rebel against Allah Almighty, who in worldly life turn their faces from Allah, who are not bound by His commands, who out of arrogance and pride deny Allah, the place of return is what an evil abode. Yes.

Abode means a certain place; people's arrival at these certain places: these are their abodes. That is, the places where they will stay. These abodes are Paradise and Hell. One is what an evil abode, and the other, according to the verse "who is truer to his word than Allah", for those obedient to Allah, the righteous servants, what a beautiful place it is, He says; that is Paradise. Yes, that these are people of Hell is made known.