Maryam 29: Then, Mary pointed (to the child). They said? “Really? Do you want us to speak to an infant in a cradle?”

Thereupon Mary pointed to the child. They said: With a little boy in the cradle how can we speak? Against these insults made to Mary, Mary, acting as Allah Almighty had made known to her, without speaking, pointing to Jesus (peace be upon him) in swaddling clothes, as if to say "speak with him," gave a sign. Thereupon the people, whose astonishment grew, said to Mary: We, with a little boy in the cradle, unaware of himself and unable to speak, a newborn baby, how shall we speak? This little one neither understands what we say nor can he speak with us, they say. Now let us reinforce this part with what we have explained.

Let us prove it with verses. We will now remind you of what we explained before.

Allah Almighty, we said, programmed the worlds. Right? Everything is within a program. Before we come to the world, when Allah Almighty says only Allah knows what is in the wombs, from the world of barzakh, will it (?) a girl, will it (?) a boy? This is within Allah's knowledge. Is this right too? Right.

A soul He takes from there

He clothes with a garment in the world of proximity, which we call the world of Jabarut. That is, that life, by keeping it in memory, He locks its program. Just as a program, once given, is locked.

If you can't give the password, you can't get in there. From there it is sent to the world of Malakut. To this soul, which we call the spiritual soul, He puts on a garment there too. What does this garment mean? There too He puts a password on it. He makes it forget that place as well. But it is in memory. When He sends it to the world of Mulk, He wraps it in a body. We call it the bodily soul. The person, the worlds of Malakut and Jabarut, although they are in memory, does not know. In the world he starts from zero. Only if he breaks the states of the nafs, nafs al-ammara, nafs al-lawwama, then nafs al-mulhima, then he rises to nafs al-mutmainna.

After becoming aware of the manifestations, he reaches nafs al-radiya, the state of ilm al-yaqin. In nafs al-mardiyya he becomes Qutb al-Azam, in nafs al-safiya Qutb al-Aqtab. Now, breaking the states of the nafs, he makes a return back, makes an exit, that is. In this case everything is in the person's memory, but the programs came clothed, they are locked; speech is there, memory is open; He locks it, resets it to zero in the world, restarts it. Jesus (peace be upon him), in the covenant of Elestü bi Rabbiküm — not only Jesus, all of us have a covenant with our Lord; we all know it; how we gave the pledge, how we made the covenant, we know that too, but we know it in our state in the world of barzakh before coming to the world; when we come to the world, it is reset, we start from zero; in a hidden world, a world where His Being is not seen, so that you would not say, "If You had sent me scholars and books, I would have obeyed Your command" — so that you would not say that, He locks those places and starts you from zero here, but the characters are in you. In this case Jesus's faculty of speech is open; (?) even though he is a child, his memory is open, his language of speech is open.

Now what we explained is understood, isn't it? Could I explain it more beautifully, more clearly? If you didn't understand this part, I'll explain it once more. Yes: the souls' well, waiting in the world of barzakh, waiting in barzakh; when it is taken from barzakh, in the world of Jabarut, called the world of proximity, our Lord making it forget that world, that is, clothing it; sending it from there to the world of Malakut, and in the world of Malakut, there too, closing that world, the world that is with His Being; when it enters the mother's womb, wrapping the soul in the bodily and making it forget those places completely and starting it from zero here.

Well, if He does not clothe it, what happens? If He does not program it, what happens? Memory stays open. So the verse: Thereupon Mary pointed to the child. They said: How can we speak with a little boy in the cradle? I came at it from this side so that it would be better understood.

Against these insults made to Mary, Mary, acting as Allah Almighty had made known to her, without speaking, pointing to Jesus in swaddling clothes (peace be upon him), as if to say "speak with him," gave a sign. Thereupon the people, whose astonishment grew, said to Mary: We, with a little boy in the cradle, unaware of himself and unable to speak, a new- born baby, how shall we speak? This little one neither understands what we say nor can he speak with us, it says.