Ta-Ha 18: He said; “It is my staff. I lean on it; I beat down leaves for my sheep with it. And I have other needs for it.”

Surah Ta-Ha, verse 18: That is my staff, he said. I lean on it. With it I beat down leaves for my flocks. And I have other uses for it as well, he says.

Now here a question like this comes to my mind.

This is a spiritual event. Moses to the Prophet (peace be upon him): "My ummah (?) like the prophets," I said. Can you prove this to me, he says.

Spiritual Now it has slipped my mind. Imam Mahmud Ghazali. No.

There's that famous scholar who wrote the thing, Imam Ghazali, Hodja. There is Imam Ghazali, and there is also Abdulqadir Gilani, sir.

It has completely slipped my mind. There is Imam Rabbani. Not him. He has a great work, you know, a great person. Ghazali, Hodja. Imam Ghazali, Hodja. That's what we're saying too. Imam Ghazali. The one with the work, you know. Imam Ghazali. The author of the work Ihya-i Ulumiddin. Ihya-i Ulumiddin. Not Ihya-i Ulumiddin.

Anyway, I'll tell you that. I'll tell you.

Not Ihya-i Ulumiddin. (?) he has a work in 7–8 years. In fact, if Allah Almighty had not sent a prophet, with his works, sir, people would find the right path.

Abdulqadir Gilani, sir. Abdulqadir Gilani? Is it Muhyiddin Arabi, Hodja? Muhyiddin Arabi? No, no. I'll tell you later.

Thereupon he sends his spiritual being to Moses. Moses asks: Who are you?

I, he says. Perhaps it is Imam Ghazali. It is Imam Ghazali.

He wrote Ihya-i Ulumiddin. Now my memory is only just coming back. Once one settles in another world, outwardly one cannot easily collect one's mind. Yes, Imam Ghazali. Now (?) again. Who are you, he says. I, he says, am from such-and-such village, son of so-and-so, from such-and-such town, he tells this and goes around and around and around. Imam Ghazali, he says. Moses says: That won't do. Why won't it do, he says. I asked you who you are, he says. You went on and on, and on and on, and on and on, he says. Sir, you answered what I asked only at the very end, he says. And when Allah Almighty asked what was in your hand, why didn't you just say "my staff", but went on and on, and on and on, he says.

That, he says, I said in order to stay longer in Allah's presence, he says. Well, you are a prophet too; I also said it to stay longer in your presence. When he says that, (?), O Messenger of Allah, he says. Yes. Yes. Imam Ghazali. This too: That is my staff, he said. Now he lists them. He lists them.

I lean on it. With it I beat down leaves for my flocks. And I have other uses for it as well, he says. The moment Moses (peace be upon him) remembers his staff, he comes to himself and realizes that he is in the presence of Allah Almighty, and in order to stay longer in the presence of Allah Almighty he does not say at once that what is in his hand is a staff, and begins to talk around it. He says: I lean on it. He tells that it supports him when he is tired, that with it he gathers leaves from the trees for his sheep or cattle, and says that it meets many more needs. Sir.